Everything BIG CED endorses Senator Hillary Clinton
Monday, 04 February 2008
I can safely say that when Bill Clinton was in office for 8 years, we, as minorities, thrived at a level that was never seen before! More Black millionaires were created during that time and there were no complaints from the black community, specifically in the entertainment and sports field. We all showed some significant positive progress and it gave us more hope for ourselves that hadn’t been seen since the mighty civil rights era. Unemployment was at an all time low, welfare reform gave people hope instead of having them look at a bleak life for years to come. More jobs were created. We touted Bill Clinton as our first Black president and with good reason as we felt he felt our plight and vibed with us so we accepted him like we accepted no other president before him. Even gave him props for getting an office in Harlem when he could have gone glitzy and gotten an office in midtown or even up in White Plains, closer to where he and his family resided.
Now all of a sudden, some folks have forgotten about the good times we had a little more than 8 years ago before the evil George Bush took over the country and placed us back on the war front and has driven the economy down and gas prices up. A recession is on the way (if it isn’t here yet) and everything is going up EXCEPT our salaries and it is time for a change. I’ve said and written it before, the country (at least for minorities) is always better when there is a Democrat in the Oval Office. We need to make sure that whoever is nominated by the Democrats gets 100% support for anyone who has had enough of how the country has been ‘led’.
With that being said, The Industry Cosign (OK, BIG CED, but it sounds just as good as The New York Times or any other publication giving an endorsement) is throwing its support behind Senator Hillary Clinton. I enjoyed those 8 years when Bill was in office and trust that times will again be fruitful with another Clinton in office. Nothing has changed my mind when it comes to Senator Barack Obama. And I don’t care how many people are saying that I am not supporting my own by voting for Hillary. Where were all of you 4 years ago when Reverend Al Sharpton was running? It wasn’t an argument then, especially amongst the ones who state that Blacks should always be behind each other, but yet, none of you were around when Sharpton was running because if you were, then Sharpton would have made a bigger impact and garnered more votes based on the logic you feed me when it comes to ‘supporting’ my own. What happened to being able to decide on who I feel is the better candidate?
I’ve said it before and will continue to say it. Barack is an excellent speaker and motivator. If I am interested in hearing a sermon or being energized to get back on my feet, I will make sure I find out where he is speaking. But, unlike a majority of you who may be reading this, I’ve watched the debates, read the newspapers and have done my research. Telling me all of Hillary’s faults doesn’t change the fact that I still don’t believe he is ready! Or better yet, I just feel Hillary is better equipped right now. They are so similar in a lot of what they propose that I can’t vote for him simply because he is a Black man. I honestly feel if Obama wasn’t Black, the support wouldn’t be as great as it is. And based on his wife blatantly saying that we Blacks who don’t support him don’t get it, just offends me, so I am using that against him! J
Well, I welcome ALL comments as I await and anticipate the venom that will come my way but if you have no legitimate response, also keep in mind that spewing negative comments will only keep me amused and prove my point! I also know that, just like we all don’t agree on a lot of things, keep in mind that this may be one of them and if I am wrong, then I can admit so but keep in mind that me supporting Hillary doesn’t mean I do not like or support my own!
No, brother, I wholeheartedly and respectfully disagree. As far as I'm concerned, Hillary's husband was the death of Harlem... he got up there and put his offices on 'Two Five and shot the rents way up, and now nobody who grew up there can afford to be there. Every time I pass an old building with scaffolding, about to be "gentrified" with black iron gates put around it,so that somebody white can move in with their big dog they will walk around Harlem wearing iPod headphones on not acknowledging anybody from the 'hood, I think "Well, the Borg got another one". And as someone pointed out, Hillary is the Borg Queen.
Obama may not be "experienced" enough... but what has experience gotten us, exactly? He may not be the best candidate, but he will open the door for other people of color to run for higher office. This country is over two hundred years old; African American's have been here around for 400, and this is the first VIABLE candidate of African Descent this country has allowed. We are way overdue for a President who looks like me. I voted for Jesse Jackson in '84... and I would have supported Sharpton but strictly cuz they're black (cuz I don't like either of them), but neither of them were qualified either. Or viable.
And Clinton wasn't that great. His welfare reform made life very hard for poor folk who actually need help. Trust me. As someone who has been living la vida low budget these past few years I can attest. And, he cheated on his wife and played bad saxophone and that made him "the first black president?" I think not.
Besides, something is fundamentally wrong with this scenario: "G Bush Sr, Bill Clinton, GW Bush, Hillary Clinton". It means the same two families will have run this country for the last 20 years. That is fundamentally unAmerican, and not the way this country was designed to run.
If Hillary gets this nomination, I'm laying money on John McCain being the next REPUBLICAN president.
Oh, Hell No.
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Thanks, Bear Maiden!
Well, first, the rents in Harlem were gonna rise regardless if Bill moved his office up there or not. That process was long in place before Bill Clinton left office as you see when you look around Harlem and see the 'changes'. That wasn't because Clinton moved his office up to Harlem.
I somewhat agree that Obama may be opening the door for more people of color but don't you think he was/is doing that as a senator as well? If he wasn't running for president, he would still be a great man to look up to and take serious and be proud of. I wholly respect Obama and I feel he is going to be a great politician nonetheless, whether he gets the nomination or not, it doesn't diminish who he is if he isn't nominated.
I can relate more to Al Sharpton than I can with Obama and that's being real. I can see Shaprton coming to my defense if necessary. I've witnessed Sharpton come into the trenches to fight for what he believes in and in defense of others.
And just because he practiced infidelity and played a saxophone didn't and/or doesn't make him Black and I never viewed him as such. I viewed him as a man who was symphathetic to my neeeds moreso than any other President before him or after him.
And I would rather a Clinton presidency than ANY Republican presidency.
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I respect everyone’s view (including yours, even if I disagree), but I just wanted to share this article/discussion with you. It’s from Slate, it’s appropriately titled “The Clinton Fallacy”
The Article:
http://www.slate.com/id/2182745/
The Discussion:
http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/101526/ShowForum.aspx?ArticleID=2182745
Holla if you hear me!
-Tanisha
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Hey Tanisha! It's funny that I never thought and would NEVER think that Blacks would do better economically than whites, NO, NEVER, NOPE! But, especially in the world of sports and entertainment, Blacks did make more money during that time than previously..... I have no solid stats but i do know a lot of black people who thrived during that time who didn't previous to those times and hasn't quite done as well as a whole.... It's just an observation though...
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I know it’s hard to wake up from the dream that the Clintons were good for black America, but you owe it to yourself to look outside of what you think the Clinton’s did for the sports and entertainment world (and those black billionaires you speak of). We have working class people who are negatively affected by good-intentioned-but-unrealistic mandates like No Child Left Behind, which Bush pushed and Hillary at the time publicly supported. You say you don’t have solid stats to support your claims, and I think that it’s crucial that you do. The devil lives in the details.
I won’t pretend that any of the politicians will make good on half of the promises that they make on the campaign. Because the truth is that what you say to get a job becomes irrelevant most of the time when the company, in this case America, pulls back the curtains and shows you what you’ve got to work with.
What the public can rely on are the candidate’s track records. In the case of Hillary, it’s her and her husband’s track record (let’s not pretend that Bill is not an issue). This health mandate that she speaks of… how would you feel if you or someone you know was penalized (fined or garnished wages) for not having health care when you lost your job? This could likely happen in the economy that we are living in. Again, well-intentioned, but…
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See, Tanisha? THIS IS WHY I posted this so I can get some kind of feedback like this instead of the 'You just need to support a black man' defense. I will look more into this. Much appreciated!!!
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